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Hi all!

I've been showing H3T to a friend, who is loving it--we finished episode 3 on the weekend.

Sometimes she asks me questions, to clarify the plot etc., and I've been able to answer them so far. But there are a couple of things I expect she's going to ask me about after we're done that I could use some help on...

1) Who kidnapped them in the van?
I re-read

joatamon's (priceless!) timeline, and it doesn't seem like we ever get to hear exactly who was behind the initial van-kidnapping of TY and MSF. I think I generally assumed it was Chen Wen Hao, because of one of the henchmen in the van saying something like "the Boss" wants to see them. (Though I suppose if it was the remnant of Wang Kun Chen's people, they could have been instructed to take Tang Yi to that gang's new "boss".)

2) What kind of prison sentence do we think Tang Yi is looking at?
Given that Tang Yi ends up out on bail/under house arrest and gets to take himself to prison, I assume it's not a crime like murder (the murder of Wang Kun Chen, which is implied to have been done by Jack at Tang Yi's order, to draw Chen Wen Hao back from Cambodia).

So I assume it would have to be something like assault and kidnapping? (the beating/menacing of Zhou Guan Zhi? The offscreen captivity of He Hang?) I doubt Meng Shao Fei prosecuted Tang Yi for the accidental shooting. :D And Jack's info he handed over to Interpol about Hsin-Tien Group I assume would involve the defiant members who were still moving drugs, whereas Tang Yi has gone legit.

Anyway, I've never seen the novelization or similar things myself, but I remember someone mentioning the length of Tang Yi's sentence being in one of those quasi-canon projects somewhere. What was it?

Thanks for any thoughts you may have! I think she'll especially ask me about Interpol, Jack's role in the whole thing, and Tang Yi's prison sentence, so any ideas on those topics in particular will help me get ready! XD

abyss_valkyrie

Alright,so here's a poll because we love clicking on those,right?! :D
If you were stranded anywhere and wanted to make it out alive, which one to two characters would you choose to get stuck with? What would you have them do or do with them?
Let us all know which setting you chose and which character(s) you chose in the comments.
You are welcome to come up with a short scenario of how you survive or just explain why you chose the characters you did. I'm sure some writers can even get ideas from your thoughts!XD

Poll #25137 Let's survive this!

Open to: Registered Users, detailed results viewable to: All, participants: 11

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You're stuck

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on an island that gets dangerous at night
2 (18.2%)

in a cave
4 (36.4%)

on a planet after a space mission
6 (54.5%)

on the rooftop of a building with bad guys chasing after you
2 (18.2%)

in a school building during a zombie apocalypse
1 (9.1%)

Character(s) you're stuck with

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Tang Yi
5 (45.5%)

Meng Shao Fei
6 (54.5%)

Jack
7 (63.6%)

Zhao Li An (Zhao Zi)
3 (27.3%)

Andy
2 (18.2%)

Zuo Hong Ye
0 (0.0%)

Li Zhi De
1 (9.1%)

Gu Dao Yi
1 (9.1%)

Chen Wen Hao
0 (0.0%)

doctorskuld

It's time for all of us to come together and discuss our favorite pouty fox, Andy!

All we know about him is that he's the owner of a bar and club that Tang Yi frequents, he's one of Tang Yi's closest friends, he's got a boyfriend (who is apparently even closer to Tang Yi than he is), and he and Tang Yi might have had a thing going back in the day.

He's also not going to refuse an opportunity to one-up Meng Shao Fei whenever possible.

There's not much that is ever verified in canon, but there sure can be a lot of speculation! ( Some thoughts and images, to get you in the mood to share your headcanons. )

He's a great narrative foil for MSF to realize that he does have a crush on TY and that he is, maybe, a little jealous, but there could be much more to Andy's character that we never get to explore.

Who is he? How did he and Tang Yi meet? How long have they known each other?

Andy's character is wide open for exploration in fandom, so let's get talking!

clevermanka

Following doctorskuld's wonderful Jack post with my thoughts on Hong Ye. Like that one, this has spoilers! I warned y'all I have A Lot of feelings about Hong Ye, so buckle up.

( She will cut you like this tag. )( She will cut you like this tag. )

doctorskuld

Kicking off the series of character discussion threads right with Jack, everybody's favorite leather-clad mercenary and #1 TangFei shipper.

This thread will be full of spoilers, including the little bit of his background revealed in the second epilogue of the novelization.

( Some pics and thoughts to start us off, under the cut )

There are a lot of different characterizations I've seen out there in the fandom, a lot of different interpretations of his life before the events we see in Trapped and after he settles down with Unit Three's resident cinnamon roll. There's a lot to discuss.

So, everybody, let's talk about Jack!

doctorskuld

stebeee and

weilongfu have finished translating the second epilogue of the HIStory 3: Trapped novelization.

The epilogue reveals some of Jack's dark past and focuses around his relationship with Zhao Zi, smut included.

Please consider this entry the discussion thread for the events in Epilogue 2, meaning that there will be spoilers for such in the comments.

(When discussing things revealed by the novelization elsewhere in the community, please continue to use the spoiler blackouts [code found in profile] until the novelization is fully translated.)

yantantether

Tang Yi sits waiting for news in the hospital. Lovely Dr Jiang stages a small intervention - telling him he’s got a good thing in Meng Shao Fei and he should let go of his obsession with revenge. Meng Shao Fei wakes up and is weirdly perky for someone who’s just been shot, but then I suppose it’s almost a weekly event for him at this stage.

He and Tang Yi talk, and Tang Yi eventually agrees to turn A-Zhi over to the police. Meng Shao Fei tells him he loves him and, in a gorgeous moment, Tang Yi puts his handcuffed wrists over his head so he can embrace him.

( It's not goodbye, it's till we meet again )

yantantether

Tang Yi and Chen Wen Hao face away from each other as Meng Shao Fei brandishes Tang Yi's birth certificate between them and we go into a FLASHBACK. Li Li Zhen and Tang Guo Dong are visiting Chen Wen Hao in prison. Li Li Zhen has obviously recently learned that her boyfriend didn't just pop out for some milk and never come back, but is in fact a convicted mobster. She angrily breaks up with him and claims to have had an abortion.

Back in the present, Meng Shao Fei seems to be trying to effect a family reunion between Tang Yi and Chen Wen Hao and unsurprisingly Tang Yi is unimpressed. Chen Wen Hao denies killing Tang Guo Dong.

( Drama central, interspersed with Jack and Zhao Zi sweetness )

doctorskuld

stebeee and

weilongfu have finished translating the first epilogue of the HIStory 3: Trapped novelization.

The epilogue focuses around the Tang Yi/Meng Shao Fei relationship, but the other characters we know and love do appear.

Please consider this entry the discussion thread for the events in Epilogue 1, meaning that there will be spoilers for such in the comments.

(When discussing things revealed by the novelization elsewhere in the community, please continue to use the spoiler blackouts [code found in profile] until the novelization is fully translated.)

yantantether

The episode opens with Tang Yi meeting with Chen Wen Hao. Chen Wen Hao talks about how it was loyalty (to Tang Guo Dong, although we don't learn this until a later scene) which kept him in jail for 24 years. Tang Yi accuses Chen Wen Hao of bribing Ah-De to act for him, Chen Wen Hao responds by accusing Tang Yi of not keeping to their agreement, and finally Tang Yi pretty blatantly threatens him with revenge.

In a flashback, we see Chen Wen Hao and Tang Guo Dong running from pursuers. They're obviously close friends. There's a time jump to a later flashback and they're now by a river, talking about how Tang Guo Dong is on the point of being sent to jail. Chen Wen Hao says that Xin Tian Meng wouldn't survive without him, and offers to take the fall, and his place in jail. He asks Tang Guo Dong to take care of his girlfriend and says, "you can't let her know."

Back in the present, Chen Wen Hao gives Jack a meaningful look.

Meanwhile, Meng Shao Fei is searching through police records to find more information about Li Li Zhen's connection to Tang Guo Dong. He finds a secret compartment in Li Li Zhen's music/puzzle box, which conceals a birth certificate of someone with the same birth date as Tang Yi. Deng deng deng!

( ahhhhhh BOYS )

Recapper note: I'm away this weekend, so episode 9 will go up on Weds 5th. Also, apologies for the lack of pretty in this post, I'm battling a semi-dead laptop which is making including gifs and pics quite tricky.

yantantether

The start of the episode gives us another gorgeous look at Tang Yi kneeling to kiss Meng Shao Fei's bullet wound, before Meng Shao Fei has a slight overload of feelings and horniness and goes to hide in the bathroom. But he's smiling once he gets in there so we know things are going to be OK.

When he comes out he and Tang Yi share the meal that Tang Yi has just cooked and I get mildly distracted by the way that Tang Yi keeps his apron on while they're eating, what a beautiful nerd. Then conflict arises between them as Tang Yi doesn't want him to get involved in the way he plans to deal with the attempted murder of Zuo Hong Ye and Meng Shao Fei, understandably, says that as a cop (and the actual shooting victim!) he can't not get involved.

( Flashbacks, cake and kissies )

yantantether

The episode starts in the hospital with Tang Yi holding a sleeping Meng Shao Fei's hand and looking down at him fondly. Meng Shao Fei wakes and smiles up at him. Huang Yi Qi turns up and tries to get into the room but Zhao Zi, who has excellent EQ and has picked up exactly which way the wind is blowing, prevents her until Tang Yi comes out.

Tang Yi meets with Chen Wen Hao alone and, obviously shaken by the attack on Zuo Hong Ye and the Meng Shao Fei collateral damage, reluctantly agrees that they won't mess with each other's areas of business.

Back at the hospital, Zhao Zi is snoring on the couch next to a thirsty Meng Shao Fei, and Tang Yi turns up like a ministering angel and helps Meng Shao Fei drink some water. Meng Shao Fei takes his hand and sweetly tells him he looks better when he smiles.

Zhao Zi wakes up to find Jack the troll rather than Meng Shao Fei in the hospital bed. Then we get a sweet moment when Zhao Zi tells him his grandma prophesied he'd find someone to take care of him and provide for him, and Jack promptly produces the breakfast he's brought him.

( MOAR )

yantantether

The episode begins with Meng Shao Fei and Ah-De busting in on Andy and Tang Yi. In the scene that follows Meng Shao Fei is mildly obnoxious, Andy is brilliantly sarcastic, and a bit of (a lot of) Tang Yi is clearly loving being fought over. Next we see Meng Shao Fei angrily eating lunch with Tang Yi and Ah-De, and the atmosphere is so tense that it even gets through to Ah-De - he makes his excuses and goes to wait outside.

Meng Shao Fei is acting VERY jealous of Andy (and to be fair, that's exactly what Tang Yi was going for all along.) I love the way the moment is punctured by Tang Yi calling him on it and Meng Shao Fei just admitting that, yes, he is jealous, before unconvincingly trying to take it back. And then Tang Yi diverts him from his obsessive ramblings by taking a drink of his coke (the Coke of Symbolism.) Meng Shao Fei points out that his saliva is in it and Tang Yi LICKS HIS LIPS and drinks some more and it's, uh. Yep, that's VERY intimate and emblematic of just how happy he'd be to get a taste of Meng Shao Fei (in a NUMBER of ways) for real.

( This one got quite long )

yantantether

Andy and Tang Yi watch Big K being arrested on CCTV from the back room of the bar and Andy shows he is not someone to be messed with when he says, "These people trying to sell drugs in my territory, they really don't want to live anymore."

Tang Yi arrives home to find Meng Shao Fei pulling faces at his security cameras like a brat. The quiet scene of them drinking tea in a cafe that follows is THE scene which sold me on them as a couple when I first watched. The look of joy on Meng Shao Fei's face when Tang Yi tells him Andy has a boyfriend is a sight to behold.

( More under the cut )

yantantether

The episode starts with Li Zhi De chastising some unfortunate minions for their failure to find Tang Yi. We get the first hints of his conflict with Jack and see the steel under Jack's smile as he warns Li Zhi De not to cross him.

Tang Yi and Meng Shao Fei make it to the road and run into a couple of bad guys. In a fairly odd sequence, Meng Shao Fei imagines trying to get past them by throwing pebbles at them from makeshift catapults, or by stripping down to their pants and flagging down a car. (And then he faints, but we don't see it, and Tang Yi somehow gets them to safety, right? I've always been a bit confused by this bit.)

Zhao Zi is napping on the interrogation room sofa and Jack wakes him up with the application of tickles. Zhao Zi is completely unintimidated by him and offers to trade Meng Shao Fei's number for food: a lot of food

( More under the cut )

yantantether

The episode begins with the police team sharing a meal, before Meng Shao Fei hauls off to confront Tang Yi at another cafe. We get a flashback to Tang Guodong teaching Tang Yi to cook, and it becomes clear that Tang Yi wants revenge on Chen Wenhao for Tang Guodong's death. Then the world's least subtle stake out leads to Meng Shao Fei getting all up in Tang Yi's face AGAIN and trying to provoke him to reveal more about Wang Kunchen's death and Chen Wenhao's return. They're suddenly attacked by mysterious assailants and end up fighting back to back before being kidnapped, then escape into the woods while handcuffed together.

Meanwhile, Jack hauls Zhao Zi off to try and shake him down for information about Tang Yi's whereabouts. Tang Yi and Meng Shao Fei hole up in an abandoned house for the night. Tang Yi freaks out about Meng Shao Fei touching his lighter and in flashback we see Tang Guodong giving it to him as Tang Yi promises to take on leadership of the mob after him. Meng Shao Fei, who was stabbed in the arm the previous day, wakes up feverish and the ep winds up with him tripping as they make their way down the mountain and falling into Tang Yi's arms.

( Some thoughts )

yantantether

I've just started a rewatch, and I thought it might be fun to put up discussion posts for anyone who's also rewatching, watching for the first time, or just has random thoughts. I'm watching on Viki, where there are 10 episodes of 45 minutes each, so I'll start with a short summary and then some brief thoughts of my own (and then hopefully everyone can join in in comments!) I'll aim to get these up twice a week, on Saturdays and Wednesdays.

Episode 1

We meet our leads! Tang Yi's efforts to move his gang into legit business and Meng Shao Fei's long-standing obsession with him are both sketched very vividly. We also get a quick picture of Jack's insouciance, Captain Shi and his hilarious exasperation with Meng Shao Fei, Zhao Zi and Meng Shao Fei's friendship, and Tang Yi's close relationship with Hong Ye. Following Tang Yi's confrontation with Wang Kunchen and the latter's murder, we learn that Chen Wenhao is returning from Cambodia and the joint police and Interpol investigation into him begins. The episode ends with Meng Shao Fei looking sadly at his mentor's ID card as he thinks of her.

( Thoughts under the cut )

(Mod, could we please have a rewatch/discussion tag?)

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