I sort of love that he wears it, though, because to me this shows both that MSF is confident in himself and doesn't really care what others think (see also the frog sweatshirt),
That is a good point, actually. MSF does not give any shits about what others think about him, whether he's dating the head of an organized crime syndicate or wearing a matching pink kermit shirt his co-worker designed for a stakeout.
Or that awful, awful bowtie. JEEZUS.
It just seems unusual for a martial guy to be so open and honest about his feelings and to approach a person they're interested in and thus a potential relationship with a sense of joyous, exploratory wonder (which has been my read of things so far).
I think one of my favorite things about Jack is that he is one of those characters that defies expectations. You would expect him to be this stoic badass, given his competency, his place in the syndicate hierarchy, and his obvious skill at killing people and getting away with it. But instead he is this smirky trickster who plays for chaos and navigates his own feelings with surprisingly high emotional intelligence.
I feel that Jack is one of those people, like MSF, who likes what he likes (it does take a certain amount of flying in the face of convention to do what he does, including the killing in cold blood) and is honest to himself about that. The way that I see Jack is that he realizes he has never fallen in love, and what he sees is an opportunity to do something new and different and fun in being with Zhao Zi, something he's never done before. And he doesn't want to pass that up. He's been a mercenary, he's been a spy, he's killed people, had thrilling adventures, and put his life on the line, and that's what normal for him. Having a family and staying in one place isn't normal, and so that's what piques his curiosity.
But yeah, I agree that he approaches a possibility of a life with Zhao Zi with exploratory wonder. He literally doesn't know what that feels like, and I imagine it's that different thrill he wants to explore and embrace. And this is one chance.
I have a lot more thoughts on this, but I will save it for when we get to the right places in the rewatch...
ETA: Oops, there was more I wanted to say, sorry!
There's NO way Kenny/ZZ could be 28 in my mind.
I think ZZ is supposed to be the "looks like a cinnamon roll and is a cinnamon roll" character for age 28? Apparently they had a really, really hard time finding the right actor for ZZ. They needed someone who was the correct height, but also had the naive innocence that Zhao Zi possesses. They went through 70-something auditions before they found Kenny Chen, and they were holding his audition as they were already starting to put together the costumes for Jake, Chris, and Andy, so apparently it was really down to the wire! The director really wanted to find somebody who was just right. Apparently, Stanley Mei (who plays Li Zhide) originally auditioned for Zhao Zi.
For the other three, on looks alone I'd plump for early to mid 20s,
At the time of filming, Chris was 28-29, Jake was 27-28 (Chris and Jake had their birthdays during filming, and they have their birthdays on the same day, just one year apart) and Andy was 27.
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That is a good point, actually. MSF does not give any shits about what others think about him, whether he's dating the head of an organized crime syndicate or wearing a matching pink kermit shirt his co-worker designed for a stakeout.
Or that awful, awful bowtie. JEEZUS.
It just seems unusual for a martial guy to be so open and honest about his feelings and to approach a person they're interested in and thus a potential relationship with a sense of joyous, exploratory wonder (which has been my read of things so far).
I think one of my favorite things about Jack is that he is one of those characters that defies expectations. You would expect him to be this stoic badass, given his competency, his place in the syndicate hierarchy, and his obvious skill at killing people and getting away with it. But instead he is this smirky trickster who plays for chaos and navigates his own feelings with surprisingly high emotional intelligence.
I feel that Jack is one of those people, like MSF, who likes what he likes (it does take a certain amount of flying in the face of convention to do what he does, including the killing in cold blood) and is honest to himself about that. The way that I see Jack is that he realizes he has never fallen in love, and what he sees is an opportunity to do something new and different and fun in being with Zhao Zi, something he's never done before. And he doesn't want to pass that up. He's been a mercenary, he's been a spy, he's killed people, had thrilling adventures, and put his life on the line, and that's what normal for him. Having a family and staying in one place isn't normal, and so that's what piques his curiosity.
But yeah, I agree that he approaches a possibility of a life with Zhao Zi with exploratory wonder. He literally doesn't know what that feels like, and I imagine it's that different thrill he wants to explore and embrace. And this is one chance.
I have a lot more thoughts on this, but I will save it for when we get to the right places in the rewatch...
ETA: Oops, there was more I wanted to say, sorry!
There's NO way Kenny/ZZ could be 28 in my mind.
I think ZZ is supposed to be the "looks like a cinnamon roll and is a cinnamon roll" character for age 28? Apparently they had a really, really hard time finding the right actor for ZZ. They needed someone who was the correct height, but also had the naive innocence that Zhao Zi possesses. They went through 70-something auditions before they found Kenny Chen, and they were holding his audition as they were already starting to put together the costumes for Jake, Chris, and Andy, so apparently it was really down to the wire! The director really wanted to find somebody who was just right. Apparently, Stanley Mei (who plays Li Zhide) originally auditioned for Zhao Zi.
For the other three, on looks alone I'd plump for early to mid 20s,
At the time of filming, Chris was 28-29, Jake was 27-28 (Chris and Jake had their birthdays during filming, and they have their birthdays on the same day, just one year apart) and Andy was 27.
I think East Asians just look younger?